{"id":7066,"date":"2011-01-22T22:31:22","date_gmt":"2011-01-22T22:31:22","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=7066"},"modified":"2017-05-17T09:03:02","modified_gmt":"2017-05-17T09:03:02","slug":"forum-de-questions-et-celui-qui-se-suicide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/?p=7066","title":{"rendered":"Forum de questions &#8211; \u00ab Et celui qui se suicide ? \u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/question-couleur1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7068\" title=\"question couleur\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/question-couleur1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"326\" height=\"106\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/question-couleur1.jpg 326w, https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/question-couleur1-300x97.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 326px) 100vw, 326px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #b22222;\">Et celui qui se suicide ?<\/span><\/h1>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><span style=\"color: #b22222;\">Par Jean-Marc Pilloud<br \/> <\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Pilloud.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7069\" title=\"Pilloud\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Pilloud.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"76\" height=\"98\" align=\"left\" hspace=\"10\" vspace=\"10\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">Le suicide est souvent aur\u00e9ol\u00e9 de m\u00e9rites qu\u2019il n\u2019a pas et l\u2019on oublie volontairement qu\u2019il est en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur d\u2019une tr\u00e8s grande d\u00e9tresse intime que personne n\u2019a pu comprendre. Cet \u00e9tat de grande d\u00e9tresse, nous pouvons \u2013 vous et moi \u2013 le conna\u00eetre aussi. Jour terrible, jour d\u2019angoisse o\u00f9 l\u2019on se sent seul, terriblement seul et abandonn\u00e9 de tous\u2026 On croit avoir atteint \u201cle point de non-retour\u201d. Il n\u2019y a pas d\u2019issue et l\u2019on en vient \u00e0 souhaiter la mort. \u00bb <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #b22222;\">Que dit la Bible ? <br \/> <\/span><\/h2>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\"><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/pdf2011\/Pages 1-2011 Au-del\u00e0.pdf#page=25\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"iconePDF\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/iconePDF.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"81\" height=\"76\" align=\"right\" hspace=\"8\" vspace=\"8\" \/><\/a>L\u2019Ancien Testament proclame sans \u00e9quivoque la souverainet\u00e9 de Dieu sur la vie et la mort. Au <span style=\"background-color: #add8e6;\"><em>verset 39 de Deut\u00e9ronome 32<\/em><\/span>, Dieu dit : <\/span><span style=\"background-color: #add8e6;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\"><i>C\u2019est moi qui fais mourir et qui fais vivre, qui blesse et qui gu\u00e9ris. Personne ne peut arracher quelqu\u2019un de ma main<\/i><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">. Paradoxalement, la Bible rel\u00e8ve que Dieu est aussi tr\u00e8s affect\u00e9 par la mort de ses enfants : <\/span><span style=\"background-color: #add8e6;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\"><i>Le Seigneur souffre en voyant mourir ses amis fid\u00e8les <\/i><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #231f20;\"><span style=\"background-color: #add8e6;\">(Ps 116.15)<\/span>. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">\u00c9trangement, le suicide ne se trouve nulle part explicitement interdit dans la Bible. Elle se contente de relater sans commentaire les sept suicides d\u2019Abim\u00e9lec, Samson, Sa\u00fcl et son porteur d\u2019armes, Achitophel, Zimri et Judas. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">Pour les premiers chr\u00e9tiens, la question du suicide \u00e9tait ambigu\u00eb : comment d\u00e9finir le suicide ? Quelles sont les limites entre suicide et asc\u00e9tisme ? Entre martyre et suicide ? De nombreux textes parlant de la r\u00e9surrection exhortent \u00e0 ne pas craindre la mort&#8230; Certains auraient pu alors chercher \u00e0 jouir plus rapidement de ces b\u00e9n\u00e9dictions. Cependant, les premiers chr\u00e9tiens n\u2019\u00e9taient gu\u00e8re tent\u00e9s par le suicide, sachant que le sens de la vie chr\u00e9tienne est de faire la volont\u00e9 de Dieu. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #b22222;\">Un suicid\u00e9 peut-il aller au ciel ? <br \/> <\/span><\/h2>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\" align=\"LEFT\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">La r\u00e9probation du suicide ne veut pas dire r\u00e9probation de la personne. Si un chr\u00e9tien que nous aimons s\u2019est suicid\u00e9, il est possible d\u2019esp\u00e9rer. Longtemps, l\u2019\u00c9glise catholique a refus\u00e9 la s\u00e9pulture chr\u00e9tienne aux suicid\u00e9s en signe de d\u00e9sapprobation sociale et spirituelle. Aujourd\u2019hui, on s\u2019est rendu compte que le suicide est un geste effectu\u00e9 dans un \u00e9tat de d\u00e9tresse grave. Les capacit\u00e9s de discernement peuvent alors \u00eatre affect\u00e9es. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">Les chr\u00e9tiens consid\u00e8rent donc qu\u2019il est impossible de juger ce qui s\u2019est pass\u00e9 et \u00e0 quel point le suicid\u00e9 \u00e9tait malade psychologiquement. Pouvait-il r\u00e9sister \u00e0 cette pression ? Tout en continuant \u00e0 r\u00e9prouver fortement le geste du suicide en soi, nous devons faire preuve de compassion vis-\u00e0-vis de la personne et de sa famille. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\" align=\"LEFT\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">J-M.P. <\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\" align=\"LEFT\">NOTE<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\" align=\"LEFT\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\" align=\"LEFT\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">1. <\/span><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #231f20;\"><i>Non au suicide, <\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #231f20;\">Francis Bailet, Servir N\u00b0 4-1993<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Et celui qui se suicide ? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Par Jean-Marc Pilloud &nbsp; &nbsp; Le suicide est souvent aur\u00e9ol\u00e9 de m\u00e9rites qu\u2019il n\u2019a pas et l\u2019on oublie volontairement qu\u2019il est en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur d\u2019une tr\u00e8s grande d\u00e9tresse intime que personne n\u2019a pu comprendre. Cet \u00e9tat de grande d\u00e9tresse, nous pouvons \u2013 vous et moi \u2013 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":61,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[80,49,71,88],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7066","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-jugement","category-lhomme-face-a-la-mort","category-salut","category-souffrance"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7066","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/61"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7066"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7066\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7066"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7066"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.servir.caef.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7066"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}